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Vatican clamps down on smokers/Rome
BBC News ^
| 27 June 2002
Posted on 06/28/2002 7:51:48 AM PDT by SheLion
Vatican is getting tough on smokers, banning staff from smoking in offices from Monday onwards.
Smoking is already banned in public places.
The ruling applies to everyone from cardinals to cleaners, and comes on top of an existing ban on smoking in public places.
Effectively, smoking will now be banned indoors throughout the world's smallest state.
The tiny Vatican police force has the power to impose a 30-euro ($30) fine on any offender.
'Prohibetur Uti Fumo'
Pope John Paul II, a non-smoker, approved the new measure on 4 June.
Pope John XXIII smoked cigars
The law stipulates that "No Smoking" signs should be put up around the Vatican, fuelling speculation that they will be in Latin, the official language of the Catholic Church.
If so, they would read "Vetatur Fumare" (No Smoking) or "Prohibetur Uti Fumo" (the use of smoke is prohibited), speculates Father Reginald Foster, a Latin scholar who translated the Vatican's cash point machines from Italian into the language of ancient Rome.
The law does not mention whether the sale of cigarettes in the Vatican's shop will continue.
Prices in the shop, which is reserved for the state's 4,000 employees, are around half those in Italian shops.
Italy's fines
An Italian priest, Ugo Mesina, denounced the sale of cigarettes in the Vatican in a 1995 speech before the Pope and about 500 Roman priests.
Anti-smoking laws in Italy are already tough, with police issuing on-the-spot fines of up to $250 for smoking in public places.
All recent popes have been non-smokers, though the popular "smiling pope" John XXIII, who died in 1963, was a cigar smoker in his youth.
TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; tobacco
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Things that make you go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........."
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posted on
06/28/2002 7:51:49 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; ...
I'm not going to say what I want to say here......
But, don't they have more "pressing matters" to attend to?
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posted on
06/28/2002 7:52:58 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: SheLion
Next thing you know, smoking will be banned in Heaven....
To: alloysteel
Next thing you know, smoking will be banned in Heaven.... I don't think we will want to smoke in Heaven.
It's a "human condition," you know. :)
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posted on
06/28/2002 7:55:06 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: SheLion
The tiny Vatican police force has the power to impose a 30-euro ($30) fine on any offender.Since when is a 'euro' worth a dollar?
To: SheLion
But, don't they have more "pressing matters" to attend to?
*Like THIS? I guess they didn't want to rush into this decision...It was THAT important (insert Monty Python joke).*
Vatican to adhere to 1984 UN treaty on torture
Holy See to become the 130th country to sign treaty
VATICAN CITY (AP) - The Vatican said Wednesday it would formally adhere to the 1984 UN convention against torture.
Archbishop Renato Martino, the Holy See's envoy at its UN observer mission, is to deliver the paperwork to UN headquarters, the Vatican said.
"The Holy See considers the convention ... a valid and ideal tool for the fight against acts that constitute a grave attack on the dignity of the human person," a statement from the Vatican said.
The convention was adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1984. It has been ratified by 129 countries. Signatories to the treaty agree to prohibit torture, and are obliged to prevent and punish not only acts of torture but also other acts of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.
Parties to the convention must subject periodic reports on implementation to the UN Committee against Torture.
To: SheLion
'Prohibetur Uti Fumo' Pope John Paul II, a non-smoker, approved the new measure on 4 June.
He might be a non-smoker now, but a friend who had a private audience with JPII concerning the Vatican Bank scandal at the beginning of his pontificate said the first thing the pope did was to pull out a pack of Parliaments.
Nothing worse than a reformed smoker ...
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posted on
06/28/2002 7:58:29 AM PDT
by
eastsider
To: SheLion
Wadda you mean? I cannot smoke?
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:05:02 AM PDT
by
ppaul
To: Just another Joe
It's been around .98/.99 for quite awhile now. The dollar is having some problems
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:06:03 AM PDT
by
steve50
To: steve50
It's been around .98/.99 for quite awhile now. The dollar is having some problems.Well, SH!T.
To: eastsider
they leave the child rapeists alone and in most case's cover for them.<
but smoke a butt and the smoking nazi swine will hound you till your dead.
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:09:46 AM PDT
by
BUMPA31
To: eastsider
Pius X took pride in his collection of Cuban cigars.
Pius XII, on the other hand, condemned the practice of contemplative priests smoking cigarettes.
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:11:44 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: Just another Joe
Since when is a 'euro' worth a dollar? Lord, Joe. I forget what the ratio is, but your pretty smart to catch this. hmmmmmmmm
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:12:52 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: eastsider
He might be a non-smoker now, but a friend who had a private audience with JPII concerning the Vatican Bank scandal at the beginning of his pontificate said the first thing the pope did was to pull out a pack of Parliaments. Surely, you jest. He SMOKED? No kidding!
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:14:24 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: ppaul
That's a cool picture. I like that!!!
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:14:51 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: BUMPA31
but smoke a butt and the smoking nazi swine will hound you till your dead.And in the case of the vatican, longer. ;^)
To: BUMPA31
They leave the child rapeists alone and in most case's cover for them. But smoke a butt and the smoking nazi swine will hound you till your dead. My thoughts , exactly........
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:16:13 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: sinkspur
Pius XII, on the other hand, condemned the practice of contemplative priests smoking cigarettes.
That's at least understandable.
To: SheLion
No kidding. In fact, I recall a few years back the pope's being quoted as saying that smoking was not a sin. In light of my friend's experience, I found that pretty amusing.
To: eastsider
I ask a Priest that once. He told me that God cares more about what comes OUT of us then what goes in.
I will never forget that.
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posted on
06/28/2002 8:23:16 AM PDT
by
SheLion
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